Talk:Young British Artists

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I hear "Britart" used much more than "YBA". I think the pages should be reversed; and this one should re-direct to Britart. Andy Mabbett 00:16, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

I have added a quote from Rolf Harris, who criticised Tracey Emin's My Bed, but I don't know how to cite it properly. I will learn one day. If, in the meantime, anyone wants to change it for me, the quote is from an interview by, which was in turn quoted in various British newspapers including The Independent, August 16, 2001. Le poulet noir 11:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing the reference to 'Britart (ie conceptual art)' as this implies they are totally equivalent, which they are definitely not. Though Britart or YBA art was strongly conceptually informed, conceptual art has a much longer international history besides its appearance as a facet of some British art practices. anonymous user 17:59, 16 July 2008 (GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

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Henry Bond - need quotation[edit]

The inclusion of Henry Bond in Young British Artists has these references:

^ Henry Bond (ed.) East Country Yard Show (London: ECYS, 1990); Liam Gillick and Renton, Andrew (eds), Technique Anglaise: Current Trends in British Art (London: Thames and Hudson, 1991), p. 18-26; Julian Stallabrass, High Art Lite (London: Verso, 1999), p. 134-6; Andrew Graham-Dixon, " The Midas Touch?: Graduates of Goldsmiths' School of Art dominate the current British art scene," The Independent, 31 July 1990, p. 13; Eric Troncy, "London Calling," Flash Art, Summer 1992, p. 86-87; Liz Brooks, "Spacier and spacier," Artscribe, no. 83, September/October 1990, p. 16; Tony White, "East country yard show," Artist’s Newsletter, October 1990, p. 37-38; Renton, Andrew, "Birth of the Cool," Blitz Magazine, June 1990, p. 54-56; Andrew Renton, "Disfiguring: Certain New Photographers and Uncertain Images," Creative Camera, no 306, October/November 1990, p. 16-45; Jeffrey Kastner, "Brilliant?" Art Monthly, no. 192, December 1995/January 1996, p. 10-11, 13-15; Catherine Grout, "Etats Spécifiques," Artefactum, no. 45, September/November 1992, p. 47; Paul Ardenne, Onze artistes anglais, Musée des Beaux-Arts (Le Havre)', Art Press (Paris), p.66.

This is overkill. One or two sound references would be adequate here. However, the references have to contain the information they are being used for. Take "Julian Stallabrass, High Art Lite (London: Verso, 1999), p. 134-6": there is nothing in these pages that states that Bond is a YBA. Therefore the citation fails. Please quote text from any of the sources that you have cited which explicitly states Bond is a YBA. Ty 18:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, the references to Bond in Stallabrass are on p. 140-141 and p. 132-4. Which do not specifically mention the phrase, YBA, as you say. In truth most of the articles I added--yes, overkill, sorry--are more-or-less written before the phrase yBa was coined--generally attributed to Simon Ford, March 1996, see:

Anyway here is one: but where to place this quote?

Michael Archer, "Overlapping Figures." In How To Improve the World: 60 Years of British Art (London: Hayward Gallery, 2006), p. 50.

The New Sculpture, then incubating at the Royal college of Art and quickly celebrated as part of the 'quiet revolution', Britain's contribution to the experimentalism of post-1960s art, encompassed Richard Deacon, Tony Cragg, Anish Kapoor, Alison Wilding, Bill Woodrow and Richard Wentworth. Then later still there is the generation of Damien Hirst, Sarah Lucas, Angela Bulloch, Henry Bond and Liam Gillick, the earliest of the yBas (young British artists).

If you don't have the book this link brings it up: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artiquities (talkcontribs) 19:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry forgot to sign earlier --Artiquities (talk) 20:02, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Excellent ref. Well done. Ty 20:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Creative Camera[edit]

Re. this edit,[1] did Creative Camera specify it was from the book or is that your observation. If former please supply text on this page from CC. If latter, then not permissible per WP:NOR. Ty 11:37, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I could not find source mentioned, hence removed copy as per the above rationale.--Artiquities (talk) 14:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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